LoneBear wrote:Gopi has departed from his 3-week stay here and is now back in India. Needless to say, we did a lot of "catching up" over that time, and I have tons of new information to relate. Some of this regards a parallel between a new, atomic structure and the hollow planet theory--same model, but on an aggregate level.
Bruce and Gopi, you have excelled yourself once more, Magnum opus! As above, so below...
LoneBear wrote:The primary discrepancy between hollow Earth models comes from Edmund Haley (the comet guy) who created that 4-shell model whereas everyone else has a single, inner world with a central sun. Turns out that all these models are correct, if you understand the assumptions that went into them.
The single-shell hollow Earth models are based primarily on mythological trips to the region, so they are defined by a material sector observer. What that means is that any structure that has a net, temporal rotation to it will appear as a solid. This includes conventional atomic structure (since atoms are temporal rotations), as well as the speed ranges above unity, where things are moving in time, rather than space. Any structure to these temporal regions will appear to the material observer as bubbles in a solid--namely, you can't see past the surface to see the bubbles, so it looks solid with no structure, much like the core of the planet appears to surface dwellers.
Haley, however, deduced his model from the Earth's magnetic fields and poles, which is a scientific measurement of how time changes space. So essentially, Haley was ABLE to see the temporal structure of the Earth, indirectly, because of this magnetic structure.
I actually started doing two single shell models, one for the material and one for the cosmic but felt it was two diagrams too many. It's quite tricky breaking a lifetime of material perspective programming...
LoneBear wrote:In my next iteration on RS2 development, I'm breaking away from Larson somewhat because we found a better way to model atomic systems mathematically, and hence, geometrically. It is based on what is called "division algebra," which if you look up on the Wikipedia is not even close to understandable, unless you're a math whiz. But what it comes down to, is that there are only a certain number of dimensions that both start and end on the "real" axis, which makes it "closed" (a loop). Those dimensions are:
1d: The real numbers -- progression of the natural reference system as speed
2d: Complex numbers Real+imaginary -- photons, electrons and positrons
4d: Quaternions, Real + 3(imaginary) -- particles (single double-rotating system)
8d: Octonians, Real + 7(imaginary) -- atoms (two "double-rotating systems")
Mathematics is definitely my weak point but I checked the wiki anyway and this part does make perfect sense to me from an RS perspective:
Formally, we start with an algebra D over a field, and assume that D does not just consist of its zero element. We call D a division algebra if for any element a in D and any non-zero element b in D there exists precisely one element x in D with a = bx and precisely one element y in D such that a = yb.
For associative algebras, the definition can be simplified as follows: an associative algebra over a field is a division algebra if and only if it has a multiplicative identity element 1≠0 and every non-zero element a has a multiplicative inverse (i.e. an element x with ax = xa = 1).
Two halfs of the coin with one inverted = one coin, unity.
LoneBear wrote:To keep the regions of space and time symmetric across the unit speed boundary, we mirrored the magnetic structure of the atom (the A-B part of Larson's A-B-C atomic notation) over to the spatial rotation (C), making a new model of A-B--C-D. Note that this is 4-dimensional, not 3, so it is a bit of a departure from Larson's scalar system--BUT--you can derive Larson's model, because only a NET magnitude can be transmitted across the unit boundary, so the compound motion of C-D looks just like a single dimension of C. The "D" rotation is the interesting one, since it is not directly observable by our instruments--yet greatly influences electric motion. It may explain a lot of the unusual effects on high power systems, such as those documented by Eric Dollard in his early lectures.
Does this explain why, referring back to our LM connected Triskelion, there are only three spirals? Essentially one of them is C-D but only appears as one spiral/single dimension?
I found this quote quite revealing:
The Tri-Spiral design engraved on one of the stones inside the chamber of Newgrange is probably the most famous Irish Megalithic symbol. It is often referred to as a Celtic design, but it was carved at least 2500 years before the Celts reached Ireland.
Now who do we know that has been calling Tiamat "home" for a very long time....
I extrapolated this new atomic model to the aggregate model of the hollow Earth structure. What you find is this:
- -Outer gravitational limit (out in space, down to the surface of the Earth).
-The Underworld, where souls go after death to be judged. Interesting thing here is that this in the 3D TIME of the atoms making up the structure of the mantle. Consider that a life unit is an aggregate of a material (body, atoms with temporal rotation) and cosmic (soul, atoms with spatial rotation) structure. When you die, you lose your body connection, so all that is left is the cosmic soul part--and that is rotation in SPACE. Since the Underworld is 3D time, and space-to-time constitutes motion, guess where you soul can travel to freely? The surface world, is 3D space and 3D surface space to 3D spatial rotation is NOT motion, which is why we bury people after death, so their souls can transit into the Earth from their body and into the Underworld for judgement. (If you consider the spatio-temporal relations of the life unit, it's rather spooky that it seems to scientifically verify the old religious beliefs.) Yes, Virginia, there IS an Underworld. (Got the idea from Gopi's cartoon books on Yama, describing a trip to the Underworld.)
-The inner end of the Underworld will move into the ultra-high speed range, where one encounters the inverse gravitational limit--the sphere of rest, as put in Etidorhpa. Since matter wants to accumulate around this region (that oscillation effect), this forms the classic "inner world" of most of the hollow Earth mythos.
-Now the second "rotation" (the B part of the A-B--C-D notation) begins, starting at that inverse gravitational limit and forming an atmospheric zone, where gravity is pointing outward, towards the surface world.
-As one rotates through the B rotation, a solid structure will again form, making an inner, solid shell.
-An atmosphere will exist past that inner, solid shell, and extend inward to the inner gravitational limit (unit speed).
This is the point where the same system will recur, moving in time instead of space and duplicating this structure from the bottom, up. The result would then appear, from the surface world, as three hollow spheres and a solid, central core--Haley's model.
I actually had another version of the model that was pointing in this direction but at the time felt it was getting away from your previous model. I should have listened to my cosmic self!
LoneBear wrote:A condition occurs here that Larson documents with the chemical relations of atoms in a molecule. When two atoms are sitting right at the unit boundary, the situation is highly unstable. Any motion that would make the atoms separate by just ONE natural unit of motion, would cause the atoms to fly apart, and just ONE unit closer, and they would be pulled together. And that is most likely what happens here, with the outer realm/inner realm model. In molecules, the atoms find a stable structure within the gravitational limits of each other, balancing the inward motion of gravity against the outward motion of the progression (this is why molecules are drawn as balls interpenetrating each other, rather than the surfaces touching). Same thing happens at the aggregate level--the inner sphere of the material world overlaps the inner sphere of the cosmic world--and in that zone we find a lot of energy trapped near the inner gravitational limit (not the inverse limit), giving it the appearance of a "central sun."
So what we seen in the "observed" models of the hollow Earth is the outer, spherical shell of rock, the inner atmosphere, and the "overlap zone" as the central sun. Tartarus, observationally, would be the inner sphere on the material side, just behind the "fire" of the inner sun which probably coincides with the "outer core" structure of Earth. (The inner core, and inner, inner core would be the cosmic half of the structure--remember the reciprocal relation between density: more dense in space, less dense in time. Super-dense "core" in space is an atmosphere or vacuum in time).
So do you think the bodies of the Titans have possibly been left rotating for ever (or until they are freed again) in the sphere of rest/inner gravitational limit, thus keeping the connection between the material and cosmic halves of the life unit, on either side of the unit speed boundary?
LoneBear wrote:Electromagnetically, we see Haley's model of the hollow Earth appear, and observationally, the conventional model. The only big difference is that the Underworld is the zone between the outer and inner surface, in the equivalent space of the mantle. This actually fits the mythos quite well, as from Hades, one can either proceed to Elysium (Etidorhpa, on the inner surface), reincarnate back to the surface world, or continue to the Other Realm (Agartha). Shamans were often able to take a trip through secret, underground passages to catch the souls of the recently departed on their way to the Underworld, and bring them back. A cave system would allow them to do that--something the material body could move through, to a point where souls would be transiting through the rock. It makes for an interesting scenario to consider.
So Etidorhpa was right again then... and a majority of the journey "down under" takes place in Hades before the sphere of rest and "movement by thought" beyond the unit speed boundary to the unknown country?
LoneBear wrote:Something that occurred to me yesterday is that if you look at the "imaginary" parts of the dimensional relations, you have 1, 3 and 7 dimensions (137 being a mystical number). I think that may be the origin of the 3's and 7's that occur so frequently in metaphysics, with the inclusion of the real part making 8 of the octonian--the "octave."
This structure would also apply to the sun, stars, moons, Arks and any body capable of orbiting another. (Suns and stars would be inside-out as compared to the solid planets, since the planets are based on the white dwarf model in RS2.)
137 certainly turns up in a lot of interesting places...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/137_%28number%29
. It's interesting to note the musical octave popping up again after the excellent topic here on music. I was born on the 8th!
Ilkka wrote:I had a dream about these two opposing spirals, the one was colored pink and the other light blue, the middle part between them was golden brown and the background was white. Also the opposing spirals were as suggests rotating opposing sides, one to the left other to the right. While I was reading this I just remembered this dream and that I had drawn it in my notebook.
I think that those rotations might be on opposing sides, to create the unit speed boundary, or that the unit speed boundary keeps them rotating on opposing sides. What you think of this idea?
Nice connection Ilkka! You sent me off hunting to see what I could find on opposing spirals and a few interesting things turned up:
THE FRACTAL MATRIX: A PARADIGM FOR MULTIDIMENSIONAL REALITY
(Part II, Part III, Part IV, PartV)
By Noel Huntley, Ph.D.
What would be the most simple structure for the initial development of such a model? It would be a circle. Let us now elaborate on this circle and make it into a spiral; a little like connecting together many circles---see Figure 1. This should be imagined as a fine spiral with no gaps (beyond about quantum size).
In 2D they are like circles within circles but in 3D or more they are like shells within shells connected as a total spiral (ideally this should then be envisaged in 4D to give perfect supersymmetry when we introduce the anti-spiral). This is the same as the vortex model given in other articles where much more detail is presented, such as the article, The Basic Energy Unit ---which, in particular, shows the higher-dimensional nature of the vortex.
In terms of three or more dimensions, this spiral would resemble spheres within spheres. The direction of motion of the energy is inwards from be periphery to the centre. This is essentially a model for a vortex. Current science interprets reality at the particle level and thus focusses only on the external world and the lowest contextual orders of the spiral near the centre.
What logical justification do we have for introducing these concentric circles or spirals? The spiral or vortex is a natural and efficient way for energy to transduce from higher dimensions to low. The reader is referred to the articles, The Source of Fractals and The Theory of One.
Returning to Figure 1, what may be surprising now is that each turn of the spiral (a circle) is a potential fractal level. Figure 2 shows three potential fractal levels highlighted---meaning they have manifested a form into reality. If we imagine an opposite total spiral underlying the one in Figure 1---see Figure 3, a 'side' view---using the 2D or 3D view of this, we can give it standing wave structures at each of the levels where the opposite interacts. (There are no stable forms or even time without counteraction and limitations.)
Figure 2 shows the three fractal shells formed by opposing spirals, creating standing waves. Figure 3 gives an idea of the inner structure. Since this has been covered in other articles we will not repeat the explanation as we wish to move on to programming applications to nature and the universe.
In effect, we are describing a vortex matrix from which all forms emanate. In Figure 2 the fractal strata A, B, C could be a universe, a planet, an atom, respectively. One might see at this point that the universe, circle A will spiral through other fractal levels, not shown: into many galaxies, which in turn spiral into many star systems, which in turn spiral into planets, such as fractal level B in Figure 2, and further eventually into atoms, say, fractal C (see later figures). These must be stable stationary states---and there will be many in reality. Note that the spiral forms closed systems at these fractal levels (which on the negative side provide a mechanism of entrapment and evolutionary control).
It looks like Noel Huntley has reached a lot of similar conclusions to the work done here when you look at his research, he just doesn't have the RS2 angle (or should that be rotation!) on things:
Tai Carmen also has some very good images relating to this whole topic and links this to our pineal gland/third eye and travels into inner space:
https://taicarmen.wordpress.com/2014/06 ... al-matrix/
https://taicarmen.wordpress.com/categor ... ical-gaze/
“So alienated from ourselves are we that when we encounter our own souls in the psychedelic dimension, we mistake it for a UFO. This is serious alienation folks, I think we have to get back into the inner jeweled realm and make ourselves at home there.” ~ Terence McKenna
“In some sense man is a microcosm of the universe; therefore what man is, is a clue to the universe. We are enfolded in the universe.” ~ David Bohm
In “The Art Of Seeing: Third Eye Perception & The Mystical Gaze,” I explored the phenomenon of inner visions experienced in meditation, such as mandalas and other “third eye” phenomena. The “third” or “inner” eye has been called a gateway to other dimensions, a personal portal leading into esoteric visionary realms.
This theory is compatible with the ancient Eastern belief, from Hindus to Taoists, that the luminous sphere witnessed in the inner eye region is in fact the same tunnel through which the human soul exits the body.
"Which raises the question: what is the nature of that reality?"
When you look at the other work done by Escher you can easily see what has influenced him... http://www.mcescher.com/gallery/mathematical/
LoneBear wrote:Some more technical details on the hollow planet theory, based on the "dual quaternion"... each of the Division Algebra's can be "dualized," where you basically have opposite rotations--rotate inward, then rotate back out (like Ilkka's spirals). The material (spatial) side of this would have this structure:
+1 (outer gravitational limit)
i.j (inner surface)
i.j.k = -1 (inverse gravitational limit)
(-i)(-j) (inner sphere surface)
(-i) (inner sphere inner surface)
+1 (inner gravitational limit)
Mirror this structure at the inner gravitational limit for the cosmic (temporal) side, then slide a bit together to establish that "molecular" equilibrium and you have the structure of planets, stars and atoms. All the same, just a different "scale" (that's why the RS is based on "scalar motion"--changing scales. The resulting geometry looks like the vesica piscis. Curiously enough if you put a dot in the center of that vesica piscis to represent the "inner sun," it looks remarkable like an eyeball--the "all seeing Eye."
The "imaginary" components are just an indicator of the "rotational operator," as Nehru puts it, so where you have rotation, you have atomic structure--except when you've rotated all the way around to the -1 side, which is "real" again. The region from +1 to i would be the atmospheric region, going from the +1 of space to a disburse atomic system--vapor and gas. i to i.j would be the crust and mantle--the Underworld. i.j to -1 (i.j.k) would be the inner atmosphere.
So Maxwellian quaternion theory was on the right track, until it was assaulted and drastically reduced by Heaviside and co.? I would love to have seen the world we live in today if that hadn't happened... http://www.rexresearch.com/maxwell.htm
but it is so typical of TPTB to suppress and destroy such work in order to keep the slaves in the dark...
mongo wrote:" Is the core involved in ascension?"
This got me thinking... if the earth expanded and there was a core flare, would this be akin to a door opening up to the other realm?
LoneBear wrote:The reciprocal relation between space and time, along with Larson's structure of life units is quite revealing... it also means that if the center of consciousness is moved from the body to the soul, you will have your awareness in Agartha, the cosmic soul, rather than Earth, the material soul. (That relation is easy to remember... Earth is material-istic!) But in RS terms, they are both part of the "physical" universe, just different faces of the coin of motion.
About the only other clue I have is from the Cyclopeans, whom chose THIS world, specifically, as their outpost/Monastery for Ascension to the Theta Octave. The thought occurs to me that there must be something unique about this world that appears to open that gateway, that was not present on the other worlds in the solar system at the time of their arrival.
It's unfortunate that if there is something unique about this world that opens the gateway, few people are going to find it, especially if they have to look inside. I have a hard enough time trying to get people to look up at the sky on the outside!
LoneBear wrote:So with this info, what would be your conclusion, regarding Ascension?
My conclusion is that it is up to us to look then travel inside and bridge the connection between both halves of the life unit, in order to shift our consciousness to our cosmic soul and "ascend" (I prefer "descend") ourselves. No savior required... we've got to do the hard work ourselves.