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As "outsiders" we will be faced with people that try to tear down the group. Any group of people, even Christians (though not to the extent), face people like this. I have a few questions for the Rangers on how this situation is developing, and what as Rangers could we do, or would we do if this was us.
First some guide lines:
The purpose of this is not to tear down either group, nor is it to get involved. The purpose is to learn from what is happening, and how a Ranger (ideally) might deal with it.
Please try and keep and unbias mind. Look at the points each person is making, no matter what context they come in. Add in context later if need be.
1. What roll does free will play in what they are writting to each other, and the ideas they are writting about
2. What roll does privacy play in this (either Ranger or on Bring4th)
3. Does a Ranger have the right to try and help? Is he asking for help?
One serious point which is brought up is the idea of a cult. If you know the people in this group as I believe I do, you know that this is not a cult. I have no fear and no angst about who they are. They are good people. But how do we keep any group that we create from becomming a cult. I believe that the Ranger Code of Ethics helps solve this by giving free-will paramount importance. If you don't like it, leave. No one has power over you unless you give it. (This may need to be separated.)
We are all reflections of each other, WS knows this. Look at this as a learning experience, not a session to find out who is right and who is wrong.I think that an interaction like this could only be subversive if we as rangers forget to be humble and forget to be honest - not that we should be doormats or apathetic, but that we should always check ourselves and our motivations and watch for those situations where cleverness and psychological gameplaying is at work - and once we know this, choose to accept it and so setp outside it.