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Post by LoneBear » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:37 pm

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I recently had the opportunity to watch the LOST Sci-Fi series on Netflix. Curiously enough, I had not even intended to watch it--I was just setting up Netflix access on a computer for a friend, and they gave me access to their account in case I wanted to watch something. It just happened that in order to test internet bandwidth, I just clicked on the first thing that happened to show up--which was LOST. After the first episode, I was hooked!

The premise of the series is that a plane crashes on an uncharted island with 48 survivors, from various walks of life (ditzy blonde to medical professional). They have to face the basic challenges of survival, plus a number of seemingly paranormal events--like a monster made of black smoke that can hurl trees--and people--into the air (reminded me of the old Jonny Quest episode, "The Invisible Monster").

The series contains a number of mysteries that develop over its 6 seasons, including a synchronistic number sequence of: 4 8 15 16 23 42 and the number 108 (the number of names of Shiva).

The format of the show is very "psychological," in that as challenges are faced on the island, it flashes back to the character's past so you can see the influences on their life that brought them to this point to make the choices they made. Kind of a "bass-ackwards" character development, but it works well given the premise of the series (otherwise, you'd have to wait 5 1/2 seasons to get TO the plane crash).

It is sort of a modern remake of Gilligan's Island in many ways; in that old series, Gilligan was basically portrayed as the devil, always screwing up the castaways plans to escape. In LOST, many characters fulfill that role and also exhibit the "virtues and vices" archetypes that Gilligan's Island was noted for.

It was these "mysteries" in the series that got me hooked, because the parallel to my life was downright shocking. For a while, I was wondering if the writers had gotten a copy of my old journals... including that sequence of numbers, which are my age at the 6 major "turning points" of my life. And if you've read my Vision Quest poem (in another topic), you'll notice it is 108 lines. I started making notes on the synchronicity--ended up 3 pages long! And I have never even seen an episode of the show before... I guess when the Universe wants to give you a message, it will find a way.

Despite all the negative reviews the season finale got, I thought it was very well done and appropriate, though it did not leave "room" for a 7th season because it ties up all the loose ends except one (the mystery of the island, itself). I tip my hat to the creators of this series; a job well done.
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Re: LOST

Post by DSKlausler » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:44 am

I think that other than Star Trek (Jean_Luc Picard), and maybe a few Stargate episodes, this is the first real agreement that we have - on TV or Movies. I'm sure there are others, but that truly unbearable sci-fi series you always quote is in complete contrast.

Anyway, I enjoyed this series very much - even though, as me, I detest some of the characters. Of course for me (and many), "survival" on such a bountiful island would be trivial. I seemed to connect with aspects of several of the well-developed characters. As the Grandpa (elsewhere) said "Are you kidding? Fencing, fighting, torture, revenge, giants, monsters, chases, escapes, true love, miracles..."
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Re: LOST

Post by animus » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:00 am

I think the show's pilot was the most expensive one of all time up to that date. And you were not the only one hooked after seeing it.
When LOST was aired for the first time, half of the fun was the speculation between the episodes. You would have these lengthy discussions after each episode because almost every single one added something to the mystery, or revealed one. But at the same time you HATED to wait a whole week to get your next "fix" and could almost not bear it to wait for the next season. (I was kind of a series junkie back then. I stopped watching TV when I was 17 because I hated the commercials, the constant zapping and most of all that there was seldom anything worth watching whenever I wanted to watch. So instead, I started watching the latest top series from the U.S. with English subtitles on my Computer without commercials and at a time of my own choosing - and simultaneously improved my English over the years.) A few posts here on AQ reminded me of LOST and I sometimes wondered if the members here were familiar with the show. But I don't remember the posts anymore, which is no wonder actually...reading AQ can give you quite the information overload.

I never thought of writing down the synchronicities I encounter. Is this a common practice of yours or was it just a one time thing with this show?

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Re: LOST

Post by LoneBear » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:16 pm

animus wrote:
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I never thought of writing down the synchronicities I encounter. Is this a common practice of yours or was it just a one time thing with this show?
Normally, I see collective references to political and religious systems, but this was the exception in that it had very personal references. Few times I had to stop and back up, just to make sure I heard what I thought I heard--and I did.
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Re: LOST

Post by antiquatis user » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:45 pm

I've never watched 'Lost'. If I watch anything on the TV now, it'll be cookery programs. But this TV series is intriguing.

I was transcribing Miles Johnson's interviews of a guy, Alistair, who claimed to have had his DNA changed by contact with that infamous black sentient nano-oil (aka black goo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgfZSewBPzk

That black goo was supposedly the reason for the Falklands war back in the days of Maggie Thatcher and it had something to do with that Gulf Of Mexico oil disaster (there's a Nexus article on this and lot of stuff in godlikeproductions)

This Alistair is no regular dude. He is a contactee (or is the word 'experiencer?), seen UFOs etc

Here's the relevant part of my transcript of that video:

6:29 mins
AM: I started that job when I was 19. Basically you work in a facility which is an alternative to staying in a hotel.

MJ: Was that alternative to staying in a hotel at Earls Court?

AM: No. It's staying in central London; it was above a casino.

MJ: An accommodation block.

AM: Exactly

MJ: In other words, it was a paid for

AM: Yeah, they pay the same amount as if they were staying in an expensive hotel and they get taken to different parts of London every day by a different person. They also get taken to dance classes and self development workshops and things as well.

MJ: Is there a name for this?

AM: It's called Immersion Training.

MJ: You applied for this job or you were selected for this job?

AM: I was hired by a family member who started it up. He had the idea.

MJ: Are you able to talk about that?

AM: Not really. Not too much.

MJ: Can you tell us what you can say about it? In order to build the background.

AM: Very elite clients - billionaires, military people, doctors, surgeons, very high up, very elite clients

MJ: And for what purpose? Protection? Dealing with ETs?

AM: It isn't specifically related to these things. It's a little bit fringe but it's actually purely self development. So they pay for the week of residential experience.

MJ: Are you exposed to a different cultural thing like dancing? Like you know how to dance properly. You know how to eat properly.

AM: Yeah. Nutrition, fitness, dance

MJ: Keep your elbows off the table, eat the right food.

AM: Yeah. Self development

MJ: Sort of officer training?

AM: Yeah. .... I was managing this experience for these people and I was living in the place, in the facility. There was more than one - there was two; sometimes there's been 3. Someone very high up in the US military came to stay. I was talking to him because I would talk to the clients in the evening when they get back in from their day's activities. He started talking about the television program 'Lost' and it was maybe in its first season. He was wondering like it was so mysterious, what's actually going on. He asked me some of my opinions.

I gave my theories and my theories were quite advanced and he found me quite interesting. We didn't talk about ETs or anything like that. But then we kept contact by email and then when I had my experience, I was talking to him and I said to him, "I had an experience." He asked me what it was pertaining to. I said, "Oh well, it could have been extra terrestrial." As soon as I said that, because he knew me before and he knew I was compos mentis, very rational, he knew I probably wasn't lying.

MJ: What relation has this got to do with the series 'Lost'? You said there are certain things in the series 'Lost' which are designed to stimulate people in the population group to...

10:03 mins
Caption: The LOST TV series
reaction to Concepts and Scenarios used as a Test

AM: My opinions on what was happening in the program were quite advanced. I gave good theories because it's very supernatural.

MJ: For somebody who hasn't seen 'Lost', can you give a quick synopsis...?

AM: There's an aeroplane crash above the ocean. The plane splits in half. Half the plane ends up on one half of the lost island and the other half ends up on the other half of the lost island. The people begin living on the island because they can't get a rescue mission because they don't have transmissions and their mobiles aren't working. They find all kinds of paranormal things happening on the island. So it just build up more and more. More and more paranormal activity happening on this island, the passengers of the passenger jet have ended up on

MJ: Apart from the fact that when a jet falls apart, it's unlikely a lot of people survive.

AM: Quite a few people survive in the program. It's partly a belief like it's a miraculous island, where miracles happen.
So that's part of the explanation how they ended up surviving the crash in the first place. At some point, they are not actually sure if they are still alive any way. They are not sure they're in some sort of afterlife because the island is just so strange and they've had no contact with the real world. One of them even jokes that he's not sure what time period it is. They are not even sure if they have gone back in time

MJ: So your potential answers or solutions as to what happened in Lost was a key factor in that military guy?

AM: Making friends with me, yeah.

MJ: Do you feel that he searched you out to start with or it's happenstance?

AM: I think it was just happenstance.

MJ: Are you able to reveal what agency or what alphabet agency or department he was working for?

AM: Biometrics. In the US

12:12
Caption: Biometrics:- ET and NonHuman mapping and Tracking

MJ: The way you said biometrics implied to me that maybe it involved other beings.

AM: It probably does because at the end of the day, they're working with mapping. They're working with mapping identity, using biometrics which is way more advanced than just the fingerprint. Obviously, I think they are connected with the ETs.

MJ: They're tracking ETs in the population?

AM: Probably

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Re: LOST

Post by LoneBear » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:48 am

I watched a number of his videos. I don't know about this guy... there are a lot of "red flags" in his manner and information, if you are aware of the reciprocal relation between space and time. To me, he seems more like a "sleeper agent" that has touched on the alternate personality, rather than having his genetics being modified by black goo.

LOST has a lot in common with some older shows, such as The Outer Limits and The Twilight Zone, almost running as one, really long, episode. The premise of these series was "ordinary people put into extraordinary situations." And they were certainly "ordinary" people, dropped off on an extraordinary island.
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AM: It probably does because at the end of the day, they're working with mapping. They're working with mapping identity, using biometrics which is way more advanced than just the fingerprint. Obviously, I think they are connected with the ETs.
They have had biometric tracking of DNA since the 1960s, developed in a program called O.B.I.T. (Outer Band Individuated Teletracer). Information was leaked on the project, which resulted in the commissioning of an episode of a then-popular TV series to cover it up--The Outer Limits. Though they did leak some interesting information out in that show... such as the closing narration:
Agents of the Justice Department are rounding up the machines now. But these machines, these inventions of another planet, have been cunningly conceived to prey on our most mortal weakness. In the last analysis, dear friends, whether O.B.I.T. lives up to its name or not will depend on you.
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Re: LOST

Post by Kent » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:00 am

Are you sure that wasn't an episode of The Outer Limits?

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Post by LoneBear » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:33 am

Kent wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:00 am
Are you sure that wasn't an episode of The Outer Limits?
You're right; I always get the two mixed up, since they are so much alike. I fixed the post.
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