LoneBear wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:58 am
Got to wonder what the motive is to get the demonic socially accepted?
I think an attribute of having people defect to a demonic group is a successful demoralization campaign. A few weeks ago I was in the Dallas Airport on the way to Colorado early in the morning and I wanted something small to eat and a coffee. Even though I despise Starbucks, it seemed like the most financially prudent choice for my needs, given the outrageous airport food prices. I finally get to the cashier, place my order and he asks for my name. I have heard of the meme where Starbucks gets everyone's name wrong, so I make a clear annunciation of my name, Andrew. Get my coffee a minute later. They wrote down "Anger" for my name. This has to be ... possibly unintentional by the workers, but an intentional energy behind the Starbucks Corporation or else I would not be able to tell the story and have everyone else know exactly what I'm talking about (the modern definition of a meme) and it works through the unsuspecting
workers, being muggles and all.
On a related note I want to archive this anon's post related here before it is gone.
"Being a fan" used to be about really liking something.
With today's franchises it's like saying "thank you" to your grandma when she gives you socks for birthday - you don't really mean it, but you know you're expected to do it.
Nobody really cares about Star Wars anymore, but people call themselves "fans" because in their minds, the franchise stands for their "good cause".
Hey sure, they can take their daughter to the cinema to see empowered Rey and maybe they'll watch the next one, so they're "fans", but ultimately there is no passion or love behind that decision. Rey is just a means to an end, just like any other superpowered Strong Woman™. They'll go watch Episode 8, feel very empowered, then forget about that movie and go watch Ocean's 8, it makes no difference to them.
You will see none of those people sit in their room obsessing over the lore and collect all the action figures and whatnot. Because deep down they realize that the thing itself isn't really interesting (anymore). Their passion is fighting for "social justice", that's what they enjoy about it.
Animus wrote:Magic in general is heavily pushed these days, or let me rephrase that, "special effect magic" is heavily pushed. I have yet to see a movie or series that gives a good and thorough explanation on how or why their magic works. They usually show that it works by reading a line from an old latin book, yelling a spell, waving a wand, moving hands in various fashions and stuff like that but they never go into details why doing this is of any relevance or care to explain the physics behind it. The viewer just goes with it and moves on, happily enjoying the next "light show".
That's why the new Star Wars movies fail. They want to show you the effects without the causes. The causes are just "mystery boxes" as J.J. Abrams likes to say. They keep people limited to entertainment, not education. But with all the anti-new Star Wars people out there, hopefully they'll come around to realize their love of SW was that it was EDUCATING in a capacity, and that their love of exploring and creating the expanded lore of SW was also dependent on the logic of that education.
There was consistency!
Reference: [ potential spoiler to those who have not seen THE LAST JEDI ]
If FTL travel / hyperspeed could break objects and not go through them, why wouldn't the Republic just kamikaze bombs with hyperspeed engines attached to them into every Imperial/First Order ship? C̶l̶a̶r̶i̶f̶y̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶s̶e̶ ̶b̶a̶s̶i̶c̶s̶ ̶B̶r̶u̶c̶e̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶I̶'̶m̶ ̶m̶i̶s̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶s̶o̶m̶e̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶,̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶b̶e̶c̶o̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶"̶h̶y̶p̶e̶r̶s̶p̶e̶e̶d̶"̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶s̶p̶e̶e̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶o̶ ̶a̶n̶t̶i̶-̶m̶a̶t̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶l̶s̶t̶ ̶a̶p̶p̶e̶a̶r̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶r̶a̶v̶e̶l̶ ̶l̶i̶n̶e̶a̶r̶l̶y̶ ̶a̶c̶r̶o̶s̶s̶ ̶s̶p̶a̶c̶e̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶s̶p̶i̶n̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶i̶m̶e̶,̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶c̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶p̶a̶s̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶r̶o̶u̶g̶h̶ ̶m̶a̶t̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶(̶s̶/̶t̶)̶ ̶u̶n̶i̶m̶p̶e̶d̶e̶d̶.̶ ̶T̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶o̶r̶d̶e̶r̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶p̶h̶y̶s̶i̶c̶s̶ ̶b̶e̶f̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶R̶i̶a̶n̶ ̶J̶o̶h̶n̶s̶o̶n̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶T̶L̶J̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶f̶a̶r̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶I̶'̶m̶ ̶a̶w̶a̶r̶e̶.̶ The answer to this probably lies in Dewey's explanation of high-velocity speeds. But still, conceptually, every light fighter has hyperspeed which could do profound damage and could be droid controlled -- no loss of life. Now that this can of worms has been opened, it makes the Rebels (oh sorry, the Resistance
) look stupid. If it was impossible for whatever reason like it was in the previous lore it makes the struggle against the Empire real.
"Classical historians traditionally dismiss tales of magic as unworthy of scholarly attention, but to us any mention of a witch's broomstick or wizard's wand evokes the smell of a scientist's laboratory." The Sphinx and the Megaliths