Antiquatis

Greetings in Peace, LoneBear.

The Occupation is a race alien to what I call GREC (generally recognized Earth culture). I do not know from where they originate, and I do not know what they call themselves, if anything. But I do know many other things about them.




Before I proceed with the answer, allow me to preface it with this:

Let's say you were in a hot-air balloon, suspended above a river. At this location, you can see the river for miles. All the twists and turns, the bends and the straight-aways. You can see the calm portions, the rapids, and the turbulent, chaotic changes in this river.

In the river below you are some people in a raft. The river at this point is not altogether calm, but relatively so. A short distance away is a very calm stretch, and beyond that, a bend in the river.

Do you have that picture in your mind, LoneBear?

OK. The people in the raft can see the calm stretch of river, and they can see the bend in the river, but they do not know what lies beyond the bend. However, you do. At your height, you can see what they see, and beyond what they see. If you called them, and warned them that beyond the bend was unbelievable turbulence, their reaction would depend greatly upon who was in the raft. If there were people who have rafted this river before, and they did not experience any such turbulence, they might be inclined to write off your warning as a hoax or some delusional ramblings. Depending on how entrenched they were in their Egos, it's possible they wouldn't listen to even one word of warning. "They know what they are doing."

If there were people in that raft prone to panic, they might decide to rush as quickly as they could to get out of the raft. Under these conditions, it's possible that in trying to escape, they would make it worse.

However, if the people in the raft truly were experts in river-rafting, secure in their person(s) and open to possibilities, they would listen to you. They would know that despite what they have experienced and what they think they know, as opposed to what they know they know. conditions can and do change. They would proceed cautiously and be ready for the changes. There would be no panic, no immediate knee-jerk reactions, but they would be aware and prepared. Fore-warned is fore-armed.

Those are all the possibilities. Although certain variations exist, only those three basic conditions/reactions are possible.

Can we say we have agreement at this point?

Please keep that example in your mind as I proceed. I have been in that balloon, sir.

On August 14, 2007, I had a face-to-face encounter with a representative of those who are in control of this planet - from the sidelines. The morning following the next night, they gave me a tour of the technology they have installed on this planet. They told me how it works and they gave me a real-life, real-time demonstration. I saw them installing some of their equipment with my own eyes. I saw the transmission towers, the switching mechanism, and the file-storage container. I saw them download the files of this container to one of their cities.

Please allow me to re-iterate. I saw all these things personally, in real-time and in real-life.

Of course, you are free to agree or disagree. If I were you, listening to someone else tell me this, and in the frame of mind I was in before all these experiences took place, I would write these things off. I would not believe what I was hearing.

That was then. This is now.

So I tell you this, LoneBear. It is not that I am 'writing humanity off so quickly', it is that I have seen what they can do. I have seen what they are doing. I know why they are doing it, and I know they have done this many times before, on many other planets. Although I am happy and optimistic by nature, LoneBear, I know the difference between realistic outcomes and hopeless hoping. Hope can be a dangerous thing, sir. It can give someone permission to put off doing what needs to be done, because they hope that things will turn out better. They hope that things are not as someone says. They hope that person is wrong.

Did you see the movie, "The Abyss", LoneBear? In that movie, the central character is at the bottom of a 2 1/2 mile deep trench. He has run out of oxygen. Even if he managed to swim up 2 1/2 miles with the less than 5 minutes of oxygen remaining - which is of course impossible - he would still perish from the bends. Realistically, there were no other possibilities. There are no realistic outcomes which would allow him to escape with his life.

SPOILER ALERT: If you have not seen The Abyss do not read the following.

The only thing which saved him was a last-minute rescue from ET.



Is that your opinion, sir? Do you feel we will be rescued by ET at the last minute? Is that the 'trick' we have up our sleeves?

Peace and Liberty,
tt96

edit: 'and' for 'are'.

What exactly do you mean by "no chance"? Can you elaborate?


So if I get you right, you say you have met these people... so was that in the physical, or via the mind? In general, such contacts appear to take place with some change of perception. Did you have any missing time, etc?

Certainly, Gopi.

These entities - let's call them 'people' for ease of communication and clarity - told me many things. It is my strong conviction, based on my experiences with them, that they are most deceitful, dastardly, and demi-demonic beings.

Yet it is also my strong conviction that - for whatever reason, whether you choose to call it Universal Law, Galactic Protocol, or some other reason - they cannot actually, point-blank, lie. They can lead you to make the 'wrong' conclusion. They can point you in a direction, but not actually force you to go. But what they cannot do is say "Gopi, there is a million dollars in the trunk of your car. It's yours. Thanks for your help." - unless there really is a million dollars in your trunk.

Because if actually they say that, then there must be a million dollars in the trunk. Otherwise, they cannot say it. They can hint, they can mislead, they can lead you to think that. Sometimes it's very hard to tell the difference with these people.

So, with that, let me say this: They told me they were 100 percent certain we would fall to them. 100 percent. That doesn't leave any breathing room, does it?

Another thing, Gopi. They also told me how to defeat them. It was as though they were giving me the key the castle, telling me when they were not going to be there, and yet still laughing at me.

"Good luck with that!" - is what they said as they handed me the key. They didn't actually hand me a physical key, you understand, but it is virtually the same thing.






Here I run into some challenges, Gopi. I did my best to be as clear as possible, yet I still did not make it clear. Obviously. Thank you for pointing this out.

Let me say it this way: I met one of these beings personally and physically. We were standing no more then 6 feet apart from each other. The craft of this 'person' was about 50 yards behind it. I do not know if this being was male or female, but for ease of communication, let's say 'male'.

So to make it clear again: This was a physical, face-to-face meeting. He made some noise in the brush. I turned around to see what was making that noise and shined my flashlight into his face.

What do you think would be your reaction, sir? Do you think you would go up to him, take his hand [ claw, paw, whatever] and welcome him to planet Earth?

Do you think you would turn tail and run?

Do you think you would grab the nearest rock or projectile of some kind and throw it at him?

What would you do?

It is my opinion you don't know. And you won't, until it actually happens.

I was surprised by my reaction.

And - I had no missing time.

I did have a change in perception. Acute observation, that, Gopi.

Peace and Liberty,
tt96

edit: grammatical structure

Hi tt96,

Could you go into a bit more detail with some of what you have said? Im not a skeptic so dont take my words in bad context.

Was your communication telepathy or verbal?

Can you describe the craft?

Can you describe the alien?

What did they show you that could back up that this planet has no chance?



I find it strange that aliens making contact neglected to tell you who they are while sharing all this information with you.

So have you asked yourself WHY YOU? Surely this intelligent race has a reason for showing this to YOU and what have you done with it?



I dont think LoneBear implied that we need et to rescue us at all. Perhaps physically and technogically we dwarf in comparason to some et.
We are so much more than the body you see! If they destroyed this shell it means little. 4th density will be attained et or not.




What is the appropiate manner? Fear, give up? Not me mate.

This reminds me of the claimed channelled book I read Allies of humanity as it stated there were several alien races attempting takeover, but there are also other et trying to not let it happen.



Ive got a fourth for you, I dont feel you can limit such things.
I know all to well of that winding river so I beached my raft some time ago and Im climbing over the hill to my destination. I will make my own path as I dont need to follow the river path that others are on.

Cheers
Amhlaibh

Update- Did you ever think that the mission with the message you bring that you have been given is to sway people from the path of their own evolution? Or perhaps it may have been to put you off your own?

Howdy Amhlaibh,
Intriguing name you have there.

Thanks for the questions. They require some in-depth answers. First, some housekeeping:

1. I am always honored to answer appropriate questions. Those of an attack nature will be ignored.
2. You do not appear to be attacking me. At least, that is my perception, and at this moment, that is all that counts.
3. A skeptic to me is a person of honor. For that reason I always honor skeptics. It seems to me a skeptic is someone who accepts what a person says but still (out of curiosity, mainly) asks questions. The answers provided then serve to reinforce and/or support what that person says, or they don't, and it's that simple.

I am honored by your questions, Amhlaibh, and I will do my best to provide you with appropriate answers.



The communication was done visually, and by some form of telepathy. They visually showed me what they doing. I saw craft - at least 18 different types -, towers they were installing, relay switches of some kind, and a huge data-storage container, among other things.

Regarding telepathy, I am not an expert here, so I don't know if there are different forms of telepathy. My perception of telepathy previous to these experiences was that telepathy was an actual voice you heard in your head. In other words, just like talking, but you hear it in your head and not in your ears. In my case, it was a kind of information explosion. Instantaneously I understood what they were showing me. I knew at that moment the history of Earth as it related to them. It's a very difficult concept to explain without some common frame of reference. "Information bomb" which exploded in my mind is the closest explanation I can give at the moment.

Further questions, for purposes of clarity related to this matter, are welcomed.



The craft which was about 50 yards behind him was a black triangular craft about 35-40 feet from tip-to-tip. There were no lights visible on the craft. It was hovering about 6 feet off the ground, and gently swaying off-kilter. It reminded me a little of a boat on the water where the water is not choppy, but perhaps in a gentle breeze.

There was some kind of tube about 3 feet across which came from the center of the craft to almost touching the ground. Therefore, it seemed to be about 6 feet long. There was a dull orange glow coming from inside the tube. It seemed to be a semi-circle, so perhaps 'tube' is not the best word, but I think you can get the meaning. By the way, that was the only light coming from the craft at this time. I saw no windows or portholes - just smooth surface all around.

The most curious thing about this craft to me was that it was not even 6 feet high! I mean, it was about 35 feet long at the sides, the back did not seem to be that long (maybe 15 feet), but the height was only 2 or 3 feet at the most. Most peculiar. How does a 6-foot tube - which seemed to be what we would term an elevator - get drawn up into a 3-foot space?



Certainly, Amhlaibh. But I would like to be most cautious here. "Alien" to me is something not from this planet. It could be from the center of the Earth for all I know. Therefore, 'alien' might not be an appropriate term. Alien to GREC, certainly. For ease of communication and clarity, I will use your term for now.

The alien stood about 5 feet tall. The head was grotesquely huge in proportion to its body. It was perhaps 1/3 the length of the body. It ended in a rounded tip. There was no hair. It did not seem to be wearing any clothing.

The eyes took up about 1/2 the face, not including the forehead which did not seem to end except at the rounded point on its head.

I did not see any nose or ears.

The arms appeared to be very long, and the body was quite spindly. It was half-hidden in the brush, so I did not see any hands, legs, or feet. Just the head, upper arms, and a very skinny chest.

It was a kind of orange color. Perhaps dark orange, or orange-brown. The skin appeared to be quite smooth and very dry. I did not touch this being to my conscious awareness.

The thing which stands out the most to me about this alien was that it appeared to be smirking at me. It did not move at any time. It just stood there as though exhibiting a great patience.

I shined my flashlight into his eyes. They were a very dark brown, and there were ridges around the eye sockets. They were a squarish shape, but irregular. The eyes glowed back a dull orange in my flashlight beam. For a moment, I thought my behavior was rude, so I shined the flashlight onto his chest. Since he never moved, I shined the light again into eyes. There was never a hint of movement.

This took about 15 seconds. Then I left.



Thank you for this question, Amhlaibh. First, please allow me to state there are different forms of evidence. Furthermore, evidence is a different thing from proof. Evidence is what is shown to 'back up' - as you put it - the alleged claim.

Proof simply is a decision to accept the available evidence which demonstrates the validity of the claim.

Therefore, when people ask for 'proof' (which you are not doing ), they are asking for something only they can provide. Only that person can prove anything to that person. Only that person is capable of making the decision to accept the claim. No one can 'prove' anything to anyone.

Finally, there are different forms of evidence, the most common and accepted of which is eye-witness testimony.

So, to answer your question. They showed me a few different things. One is they showed me the towers and other equipment they use to amp up the negative emotions of the people on this planet. Think of this equipment as similar to a stereo amplification system. Before you can turn up the volume, you need to turn on the stereo. If the stereo is not on, the volume (potentiometer) will not work.

They are not allowed to turn on the stereo (negative emotions). However, they appear to have the ability/capability to increase the volume. What this means in practical terms is that a minor annoyance could soon balloon into extreme, irrational violence. If you've ever heard someone say, "That wasn't me; I don't know why I did that," then this could very well be an example of alien technology at work.

They also showed me, as part of the information explosion, many other planets which they have conquered. It always works the same, you see, because humanity is humanity. It doesn't matter from which 'country' you originate - whether on this planet or any other. People are still people and they respond to the same basic drives, desires, and emotions.

There are only two basic emotions. Love, and fear. All emotions are derived from one of these two. Early in an evolution of a species, there is almost nothing but fear present, and everything in that culture reflects this reality.

We are a very primitive culture, Amhlaibh, and the evidence supports this. Look at advertising as an example. Look at the headlines. Fear permeates those two things. It's an easy thing to see once someone looks at it.

To sum up this portion, they showed me their technology which amplifies our fear. We then react to that fear and create more fear.

They showed me they have done this many, many times and they have never failed. This is because they have great wisdom related to conquering planets. Wisdom is comprised of knowledge times experience. Remember the commutative principle? 2 x 3 is exactly the same as 3 x 2. What this means in practical terms is that a little bit of knowledge times lots of experience is exactly the same as lots of knowledge times a little bit of experience.

They've got both, Amhlaibh. They are far beyond what people on this planet know as 'wise'.



Perhaps, Amhlaibh. Perhaps. But this STS race does what serves it to do. Telling me where they are from apparently did not fit their agenda.



Many, many, many times in the past 3 years. Why me? I have come to some kind of conclusion, which all leave me with some discomfort.

1. I have some kind of ability (not present in my current and conscious awareness) which would serve them. Or - it would serve to harm them if used against them.

2. I have some kind of knowledge ...(same as above).

3. Perhaps I am - or was - a member of their race and now they are attempting to get me back.

4. Perhaps I am - or was - a member of a more advance species and I am here as some kind of trial. "Turning me" would be a great coup.

5. Some other reason.

One thing is apparent to me. This was not a random thing. Random could only refer to the first time. After that the random element is removed, isn't it? They kept at it for almost two years, sir. I do not think was ever a random experience. I think they were watching me and decided that I fit their profile. From there, things escalated.

edit to add: As to 'what have I done with it', well, I have gone to various websites. Forums I guess is what you call them. Although certain people have done what they could to give me moral support, and have largely succeeded, things haven't gone quite as I had hoped.

So I come here now. I looked at the mission page, which is something I look at first, and I am quite impressed with it. So perhaps something will happen here, because certainly it hasn't happened anywhere else.

On the other hand, perhaps this information was meant for me alone. They did tell/warn me not to tell anyone. At the time, I thought it was because they wanted to be hidden to carry out their schemes. But perhaps it really was to protect me. Or maybe both. I have suffered from this revelation, and so far not much of a positive outcome has been realized. We'll see what happens here. Maybe I am ready to be done with this. We'll see. When someone asks me what did I do with the information I had, I am going to be able to answer, "Everything I possibly could." While I am not quite there yet, I could be relatively soon. It's a difficult message to bring, and it appears even harder to hear. Perhaps the people on this planet are not yet ready to listen. If no one is listening, there is no point in talking, is there? It is as though i am on the top of Mt. Everest, shouting my message to the world. But who can hear it?



Well, this is why I was asking, sir. I won't answer for anyone. It is a sincere question. However, since it is now presented, allow me to state that interference is interference and STO races will not interfere - ever. The only possible way that STO would show up would be due to the fact that STS marched in military-style. IF STS dared do that, we can be sure that STO would show up in a second to defeat this inappropriate use of force.

But STS won't do that. We will voluntarily invite STS to take control of this planet, because that's the only way it will work for those of control orientation.

Yes, Amhlaibh, I agree. '4th density will be attained', but that doesn't mean - necessarily - that Earth will continue as a sovereign planet, does it? There are slave planets in this Universe, and Earth is next. I am sorry. So sorry. I do not enjoy being the messenger of this fact but I have made it my mission to do what I can to help those who wish to be helped. Nevertheless, I will not force this message upon anyone.





It appears there has been a misunderstanding, Amhlaibh. Fear is never an appropriate response. Neither is 'giving up'. It is an underlying part of my mission to lead away from those two things, which are really the same thing - fear. You will notice that I - virtually always - sign off with Peace AND Liberty. A true condition of one always leads to a true condition of the other. Inward peace is reflected in outward peace. Outward peace stemming from inward peace means no conflict. No conflict means no possibility of war. No possibility of war means no need for defensive measures - which is a child of fear. No defensive measures means no need for suspicion - another child of fear. No suspicion means trust. Trust leads to friendship. Friendship means peace. And we are back at the beginning a never-ending circle of true peace.



However, absence of outer conflict does not necessarily reflect an inner peace, Amhlaibh. It could mean that the oppressed are biding their time, waiting for the appropriate moment, or - more likely - they will finally explode in a seething cauldron of rage, almost as one people. Since those in control are far outnumbered by those they control, sometimes little can be done to re-contain the oppression. Revolutions are really nothing more than a change in perspective, and sometimes this change in perspective results in physical attack and overthrow.



After I had my experiences, I called MUFON to ask what was happening. They advised me to call OPUS, which I did. I talked with Les Velez, who is very compassionate and knowledgeable. He advised me to call Victoria Jack. So I did. Victoria Jack is an amazing lady. She is suffering personal hardships yet still doing what she can regarding UFO conferences. She said the same thing as you, Amhlaibh, which is that this reminded her of what the AOH are saying. So I called them, and got their book.

Allow me to say this: What I found there were things I could personally confirm because I experience them. I have found ALLIES to be remarkably consistent to the reality of the negative ET presence here. As to STO 'trying not to let it happen', well, it is my opinion that 'try' is a synonym for 'fail', sir. Almost every time 'try' is used', it is possible to substitute the word 'fail' and the meaning does not change! As an example, "I tried to make it to work yesterday, but..." Now substitute 'fail' and you will see what I mean.

I have already related the predicament faced by STO in the above explanation, Amhlaibh. They cannot directly interfere. The most they can do is advise certain individuals who are open to this advice and contact. They cannot appear en masse. They cannot swoop down and give us soldiers and/or technology.

They cannot help us. sir. But....there is an opening to escape from this predicament for those who are willing to take appropriate measures. The planet cannot be saved, but certain individuals can - and will - save themselves. And by their example, others will also save themselves. How far this salvation will go is beyond my ability to estimate.





The path you are taking is the same as being aware and prepared, sir. You will not blindly follow your ego. You will not blindly follow others. You will take the information offered and take appropriate measures for you.

As I said, variables exist but there are only 3 possibilities.

Thanks for the insightful questions, comments, and great post, Amhlaibh.



And to you, sir.

Peace and Liberty,
tt96



Certainly to put me off my own. I agree, as mentioned above in one of the four possibilities. As to swaying people, well, it does not appear I have the influence to do that on any great scale, Amhlaibh. At this point the question of balance comes into play. It does not make sense to spend almost two years recruiting someone only to knock them off their course. Don't you think? Therefore, there has got to be more to it. However, that reason is not in my conscious awareness at this moment.

Hi TT 96,



Im pretty sure the voice in your head you speak of as telepathy is something from tv/movies, it doesnt seem to work like that, from what Ive experienced with telepathy I havent developed it or experienced it as such of what you say. I understand the information explosion, I have experienced my own but total different scenario. Sounds a like a gnostic experience perhaps. The one I experienced gave me the knowledge of everything, however I couldnt retain it due to it being induced by mind altering drugs.

Can you explain the history of earth as it related to them?



Bit of a contradiction in your words first you explain that to turn up the volume you need to turn up the stereo or the volume wont work, then you write that they are not allowed to turn on the stereo but are capable of turning up the volume to create annoyance.
Is this what they told you their machines did?
Mankind does not need machines/amp to create negativity. I dont understand the impact these amps will have and what they are trying to achieve as 4d transition will be positve, negative or other.
Our ego's are responsible for much of our actions and reactions, it is up to the self to understand this and overcome them.



Everybody is different, there is choice involved. All these change and relate differently to density and tiers of other beings.



Everything in this universe has polarity.
Perhaps society as a whole seems primative but I do not believe we are. At the start of this quote you mention that early in a species there is nothing but fear, you also think we are primative so whats the point of the towers when as you say the situation seems to always have been upon us and doesnt need help from outside influence.


Can you state what your message is?



I can tell you that it was no accident I found this site and have learned and been helped immensley by the people here.
There is much knowledge here among the people and boards. You should find value here as there is much value here.

good day sir
Amhlaibh

It might be me, but I think this is very possible. In physics you can increase the voltage amplitude while decreasing the current, so it is possible to do something similar on the other side, as long as you don't breach free will.


Hope you don't mind the short form of your name.

Well, the second part of the above sentence is something I can definitely agree with. It is a matter of individuals, and that is what we are aiming at on this forum, to find ways to raise the consciousness of individuals, and not necessarily the planet en masse. The message you bring had to do with help, too, as I remember... if I may ask, what do you consider true help, or service?

Also, there have been many names given to these beings around the world, have they identified themselves with any name?

Howdy Amhlaibh,

Thanks for the response.



I agree with you. Now that I look back, I remember the Occupation talking to me on various occasions, and I have answered them - without being fully aware of what I was doing. The earliest memory I have related to these experiences was about a month before the real-life encounters. They told me, "We want to take you the way we did before." I answered immediately, "No! If you want to meet with me, it has to be while I am fully awake and in actual life." This entire exchange happened in a fraction of a second! So quickly that I did not even remember it until months after the experiences. So subtle I was not fully cognizant of what was happening. I thought it was my own thoughts. It was a mind-to-mind communication disguised as my own thoughts.

Something I learned from this is to be aware of what I am thinking. If not, it's almost as if they are able to hijack my mind. They can't do that, but if I am not paying attention to what I am thinking, then distraction is an easy thing to manifest.

Less than a month later, I got my wish. I now understand the meaning of "Be careful what you wish for." So - something positive came from a negative experience. I increased - just a little - my awareness.




It's nice to be able to talk to someone who gets this concept. And yes, I did have the perception of of the knowledge of everything as well. In fact, I even told people this on another forum. I practically begged them to ask me anything - I could give them the answer. Only one person took me up on it. About two weeks later, the knowledge - or the perception of having it - faded. Now I don't know anything! Perhaps it's better this way.



Sure. I will focus on being brief. They told me they have been here for billions of years. When they got here, there were various plants and animals. There was a type of primate here. However, that primate was not even as aware as the most unaware primate on this planet today. For their purposes, they need beings of higher awareness - beings that can feel and give love, appreciate beauty, and know tragedy.

Therefore, they sent out for contractors. They gave these contractors a template from which to work - a female prototype of the human variety. All bids had to be compatible with this template. The Occupation received many submissions. One was a self-correcting, self-healing type. This was rejected immediately, as it did not serve the Occupation to have this variation.

Many others were accepted. This is why we have different races on this planet today.

They have always been in the background, prodding and provoking us to greater levels of fear. As an example, most wars are the product of their tampering. This is a fairly simple thing to acknowledge, as wars begin on the flimsiest of pretexts. Think of WW I. A war engulfing almost the entire world because just one person was shot and killed? Can you image such a scenario ? Do you think there is anyone alive today who could be assassinated which would lead to WW III (or IV, depending upon your perspective. Some people feel the Cold War counts as WW III) ?




Thank you for the opportunity to clarify this extremely critical point.

1. They are not creating annoyance at any time. We are.
2. What they do is poke and prod and provoke us by means of their technology. However -
3. We are not obligated to accept their offers of creating greater levels of fear. However, since we are not aware that they are making this offer, we respond at our most basic level - which is fear.
4. If we are aware of what they are doing, then we will have a greater ability to turn away what they are offering.
5. They generate some type of frequency which goes to the part of our brain which responds to fear. But we do not need to respond. This is the element which is the most critical to understand. They cannot MAKE us feel fear. However, once we 'switch on' the fear, they seem to have the ability to provoke us into making more.

6. If we are at peace within ourselves, then their technology has no effect - at all.

Perhaps a small example will serve to explain this a bit better. If an adult came up to you and proceeded to relieve himself all over you, how would you respond?

Now - if a baby did that while you were in the process of changing diapers, how would you respond?

I am certain you can see the difference at once, but the critical part of this example is that we have - always - the ability to choose how to respond to any situation at any given moment.

In the baby part of this example, you might even choose to see humor, or irony. You may even laugh.

I doubt you would laugh if an adult did that.

So, the Occupation takes advantage of the fact that we are not aware of what they are doing. Therefore, our choices are muted. Awareness gives us choices more clearly. The greater the awareness, the greater the ability in choosing how to respond at any given moment.




I agree, and I think the explanation above serves as an explanation here as well. They are not creating negativity. They are harvesting it. They are not allowed to create it. They are not allowed to switch on our negative emotions. The most they can do is offer us opportunities to create more. This serves them.



They collect, refine, and use our negative emotions to power their cities, also for some type of nutrient, and for what we term recrational drugs.



Exactly! Only I make a distinction between the Ego, and You. At this stage in our development, the Ego is in charge most of the time. The You part is gentle and will usually surrender to the belligerent Ego, unless and until the You awareness is able to gently turn away the Ego. Of course, these are my opinions as stated in my signature.




Yes, we are all different. However, we all want the basics, don't we? We all want food, we want a place to live, we want to love and be loved. We may have different ways of attaining these things, but the basic drives, desires, and emotions are common to all of us. Don't you think?



Positive, or negative. We are in agreement here.



Well, I don't understand this statement. Are you saying that while society seems primitive, it is your opinion that society is not primitive? Or are you saying that society is primitive, but people on this forum (we) are not?



Wheat is something which helps to sustain the world. At one time, it was not planted by us. It was picked where it grew. Later on, we figured out how to plant, fertilize, and harvest it. We learned how to pick and plant the best varieties. We learned to use fertilizer. We learned about soil, and what produced the biggest and best crops.

Fear has always been a part of our life on this planet, but the Occupation has figured out how to increase the crops. That's what they are doing here. It's the only reason they are here.



Thank you for this question, Amhlaibh.

The message is this: Get to inner peace, and focus on it now. It's the only thing against which the Occupation has no defense. It's the only thing which will persuade them to leave us - in peace.
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I am encouraged by the responses so far!



And to you as well, Amhlaibh. Thank you again for your response.

Peace and Liberty,
tt96

Howdy Gopi,

Thanks for the response.



Thank you for the opportunity to clarify this matter.

Allow me to present a scenario which may serve to better explain my perspective.

Let's say you had the ability to travel through time. You find a nice meadow with a brooke running through it. There is a great view of snow-capped mountains, but the meadow is a very pleasant 78 degrees, with a gentle breeze.

You like this area and visit it often. It's near to where you conduct other business, and that's why you're here.

Now, let's say one day you meet someone there. Your clothing is different from his. You have a different way of speaking. You use words he can understand but some concepts are foreign to him. Also, you have your sports bottle which you use to dip into the stream. Upon filling it, you drop it onto the rocks. No big deal, you just pick it up, open it, and drink from it. You offer him a sip as well.

He picks it up, and gazes at it in wonder. After a few minutes, he understands how to open it. Perhaps as an afterthought, he intentionally drops it onto the rocks. Smiling broadly, he picks it up and examines it.

Later on, he goes back to his town and tells them about a stranger he met who said he was from the future. He even showed him a glass bottle that didn't break! Also, it was the lightest glass he ever held, and he could even dent it with his hand - yet it sprang back almost immediately. It had a top that you could put back on again and again, and it always held the water without leaking a drop!

Naturally, no one believed him. Yet he was telling the truth - from his perspective. On the other hand, he was wrong - it wasn't glass. But from the knowledge he had, it was the closest explanation he could give.

I am that villager, Gopi.

Please keep that in mind as you read the accounts of my experiences, ok? I do not have a lot of physics knowledge, so I can give you only the closest approximation of what I experienced. The bottle may not be glass, but it sure looks like it to me.

So, I am not aware that you can increase the volume on a stereo that isn't on, but the simple explanation still serves. The Occupation can not make us feel negative emotions, but it appears to have the ability to provoke us into making more, once we are in a negative state. Not before.



Not at all, Gopi. I use it as well.



This is the part of this forum which gives me the reason for even continuing with this message. It is not up to us to save the planet, It is up to us to save each of us, individually. By that example. others will be inspired to do the same.



I like this question.

True service to others would be inspiring them to gain the greatest awareness in order to reach their highest possible positive orientation. The best inspiration comes from example, and not from words.



They have not identified themselves in any way. I gave them a name, but now I call them the Occupation, because that's what they are.

Thanks again for the post, Gopi.

Peace and Liberty,
tt96

Hi tt, thanks for your replies I enjoy reading them.



Are you able to contact them or has it always been initiated from there end?
From what you have said there seems to be a connection with you and them, perhaps with having this you may be able to initiate some form of communication should you choose to.
Im unsure if it would be beneficial or not but it may be interesting to see if you hold that ability.
According to the aoh book the visitors did not want people to know what they are doing as they would no longer be suitable candidates to have under there control, as you know what is happening behind the curtain. Also that they didnt want people to spread information of there presence, therefore they seem to have a different agenda with you.
Im unsure of relying on the aoh information but it seems to relate to you so I will use it at this point.




I have read similar material but it was slightly different and was called adam, hence adam then eve.



Yes I would think in this density, however this would change with our evolution. I would be interested in learning how evolved these visitors are as I dont think they could control higher densitys with the same techniques.



Yes our physical being would be primitive to those of higher density. Perhaps we are primitive but I was thinking along the lines that some/maybe all of us have lived thousands of lives giving us the height in conciousness we have.
Another side of it is that time has no back and foward, it just is. This means we have already evolved but just having this 3d experience at the moment. Correct me if Im wrong please anyone?

Thanks TT

This string has some information you may find useful as it was on similar theme of aoh etc..

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Howdy Amhlaibh,

Thank you for the response. I am enjoying this exchange.



Well, these are two different questions, sir. I am able to contact them. It is my perspective that contact initiated from their end, but it appears that I have been in contact with them for some time without realizing it.



I can contact them and I have set up two meetings. These meetings were intensely traumatic.



Yes, I can see how it could be interesting from your perspective. "Beneficial" is a subjective term, and this may be a good opportunity to demonstrate how the mind of the Occupation works.

If you could ask the Occupation if it would be beneficial for you to meet them, most likely they would respond immediately in the positive. Pardon the expression.

But, beneficial to whom? You didn't specify. Do you see where this is going, Amhlaibh? You could possibly go through the experience of meeting them and emerge extremely traumatized. After that, you could say they lied; it wasn't beneficial. But it was. It was beneficial to them.

Please allow me to insert strong cautionary language here. DO NOT think that because you think you understand this one small example that you can now out-think them. DO NOT think that. They have wisdom far beyond our ability to even begin to grasp. Engaging them is exactly what they desire.

Don't do it. I promise you that you will regret it.



Well, my perspective is different, Amhlaibh. The Occupation (most definitely they are not 'visitors' - they were here long before we are here in our present form) do not want people to know what they are doing. This is something I can confirm as true from my personal contact with them. However, it's not because I know what's going on behind the curtain - anyone they contact knows that. It's simply because they have plans and being out in the open works against their plans. It's really that simple. It is my opinion that there are many on this planet who know about the Occupation from directly working with them. Furthermore, I believe that they no longer wish me to work for them, not because I know what's going on behind the curtain, but because I can no longer be controlled by them. I know that I don't want to join as an ally what's going on behind the curtain, but there are some who do. Perhaps this is what you are saying?



No, it's the same. They didn't want me to tell anyone. But it really doesn't matter to them in my opinion, because I have no influence in this matter. No one can really believe this. And even if they did, they have contingency plans for that as well. Remember, they have done this many, many times and it has always worked. Every conceivable insect in the ointment - pardon the expression - has already been dissected and resolved. It's even possible that they wished me to do exactly what I am doing now because they are bored and they want to up the ante.



I experience at least two conflicts when dealing with AoH: (1) They appear to be full of fear. People of 4DP are largely disconnected from fear. Therefore, this appears to be a glaring red flag. Either the Allies are not 4DP, or something else is happening. Since telepathic communication is a 4th density trait, then they surely must be 4th density. But - are they positive or negative?

The other reason is that they have set themselves up as a religion. I know there are tax advantages to this, but the Occupation told me personally that they invented religion as a means of keeping people divided and in fear. Therefore, setting up a construct of 4th density negative is another glaring red flag.

Perhaps Marshall Vian Summers is a faulty channel, and the Allies are really who they say they are. I have never met the man, so I cannot say from that perspective. But one thing is true: Either he knows what it going on in his organization, or he does not. There is nothing in-between, is there? There can be no 'grey area' here. Pardon the expression.

So, if he knows what is going on, then why is there so much fear in the organization? Inner Peace serves to dispel fear. 4DP is full of inner peace. There can be no fear.

If he does not know what is going on, why doesn't he know? This can be even more disturbing.

So having said all that, allow me to say this: I know from personal experience that many things being said in the AoH books are absolutely true. But the fear thing is a major concern. The religion aspect is just as disturbing.




I understand your curiosity, Amhlaibh. Read previous statements regarding contact with the Occupation. It is something I strongly advise against doing. Ever.
And they definitely cannot control 4DP using the same techniques. This is because 4DP is largely filled with Inner Peace and the technology of the Occupation has no effect. However, because they are picking on someone their own size, let me say, they are able to use military tactics. I do not have any experience in this area so I cannot say what effect this has on 4DP, but it seems that 4DP would have the ability to defend itself.




Ok, I understand now. Thanks for the clarification. Allow me to put in another cautionary perspective. Let me use me as the example. If I think that I am higher consciousness than most of the inhabitants on this planet, that would be an excellent way for Ego to take over. It's exactly what the Occupation needs in order to complete its takeover.

Therefore, focus on Inner Peace, in this moment of Now. Focus on that. Only that.



Let's work backwards on this one. In the Infinite, there can be no Time. This is because Time is comprised of discrete units, and infinity is One thing. Infinity is not made from discrete units. Therefore, from that perspective, everything which has happened, is happening in the 'present', and will happen, has already happened in this moment of Now. The reason I put present in quotes is because there really is no present in our current way of using time. Even if you and I are in the same roon, Amhlaibh, what you are hearing from me takes time to make it to your ears. Therefore, it's all in the past. What you will respond will happen in the future. There is no present.

However, there is always the eternal moment of Now. Focus on that.



You're welcome, and thank you Amhlaibh!

Peace and Liberty,
tt96

At this point, it would be interesting to see your position on this article of LoneBear's:
http://monastery.antiquatis.org/magnumo ... sites.html

Take a look.

Howdy Gopi,

Thanks for the link.

This is a fascinating synopsis - short and easy to follow- of The Ra Material and Dewey B Larson.

I read, or rather attempted to read, The Reciprocoal System of Theory about 10 years ago. It was very difficult to understand. Lonebear's explanation is a tremendous help, and perhaps I will read the book again. I know it's available online now.

Something that I find extraordinary is the reference to the "L-Race". This is referred to as the originial inhabitants of Earth. Here is a passage which I find particularly striking:

"The L-race, however, circumnavigated this system by coming to the realization that polarization can be viewed immediately as dichotomy, and one can work with the absolute system of "motion" to achieve a higher degree of consciousness, without all the fuss and mess of the catalyst of polarized systems, where you are continually forced into working with your enemy to resolve polarity."

I do not share this perspective at this moment, but I am open to exploring its validity. More study and/or explanation is needed.

I wonder if the L-Race is the same race I know as the Occupation. That would be most disturbing to me. Are physical descriptions of the L-Race available?

Thanks again for the link, Gopi.

Peace and Liberty,
tt96

Not very likely, the L-Race works outside the system of polarity, if you remember the ideas discussed previously. What you refer to as the Occupation appears to be very strongly polarized towards service-to-self, which is quite a valid path in and of itself, as much as its opposite.

I do not have a physical description, however. The Cyclops is the closest surviving symbol, I think.

And just out of curiosity, what would have been your message, if you were still their ally? Are you aware of any other people who have had a similar contact?

In that case, I would not have a message, Gopi. I would be doing errands, climbing the corporate ladder faster than could be reasonably justified, or possibly running for some type of office. They did show me in charge of a huge area - but I don't know what or where that means.

At this end-stage, they need foot-soldiers and errand-runners, mainly. But they will soon need spokes-persons of a PR type.



I know of no other experience with the Occupation - with the possible exception of "Alien Interview at Area 51". The entity shown there appears to be a very close match. However, it's sitting down and in low light, so it's hard to be absolutely certain. But it's close.

This is a frame from "Alien Interview at Area 51"

been a long journey, has it not time-traveler?

Is it odd that I have never had any real investiture in UFOs, UFO stories or related information other than
science fiction?

I do not think it strange at all. I only became somewhat interested in UFOs based on my reading of the Ra Material and through the work of George Hunt Williamson. My knowledge of UFOs is quite scanty. There are many others on the forums here that are much more knowledgeable than I. Still, my primary interest is of more a philosophical or psychological nature (not sure what your "bent" is).