The nature of cardboard will allow for some things to pass through it. For example, gamma rays will pass through both sides of a cardboard box. This can be a flow since there will be points where the ray is outside the box, within the container of the box, and inside the box. It we look at air, it will eventually pass through the the cardboard as well though much more slowly. Other things like ping-pong balls will bounce off the box and never enter it.LoneBear wrote:I would be curious to know what is "flowing"? To use a Larson analogy, how does the cardboard of a box balance the "flow" between the inside and outside?

If we look at the box and what is in it as being what is created and that which is outside of it as that which is in potentiation then what flows might be blueprints. Brahma would come up with the blueprints which contain the capability of building themselves and send them through the cardboard box. The box (Vishnu) may choose that which gets instantiated from the blueprints inside of the box and which doesn't enter. The box doesn't create any of the blueprints. It can only accept or reject that which is offered. Siva is inside the cardboard box. He will select blueprints to send back out of the box. Again, the box can retain the blueprint or it can send it back. The box can't change, create, or destroy any blueprints. Once the blueprints are inside the box, they will go through their natural cycle (i.e. they will build themselves). When blueprints are outside the box, they are just blueprints. I use the term blueprints in the sense of being a systematic design or plan and/or a set of steps to be carried out.

This concept of Brahma vs Siva reinforces your viewpoint since the outside of the box must be yin (passive) and the inside, yang.

This is a bit at odds with my mathematical training. Perhaps I'll need to ask Gopi about it.LoneBear wrote:Learned this from Gopi... there is no positive or negative infinity, those are just directions towards the same location AT infinity. Therefore, when you approach infinity from the "positive" side, moving from zero towards it, and pass it, you're then on the negative side heading back towards zero.

This makes sense to me in more philosophical way rather than purely mathematical. One can do many things in math and some of them are actually useful . The map is not the territory and math is just a way of expressing things. Just because something can be expressed mathematically doesn't mean that it reflects reality.LoneBear wrote:That is the pattern I was seeing in this system. Whenever the expression reaches maximum value (regardless of what the counting system is), if someone takes that one more step, they'll end up on the maximum negative value; what may have been creative becomes destructive.

Thanks for the description! To take this a step further, we can look at reciprocals such as when numbers become extremely small (1 / -infinity becomes zero and then through to 1 / +infinity). This would be the other side to positive infinity becomes negative infinity. In the Western world, we are trained to see zero as the middle number (i.e. if you have drawn a number line in school). These concepts would have a different middle number since zero and infinity (which isn't really a number at all) would seem to be the end-points in this continuum.