Return of the Gods

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Return of the Gods

Post by daniel » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:45 pm

On December 10th, I received some information from the scientific underground that indicates that the "Gods" are returning to our solar system. The exact meaning of "gods" is unclear by my source, but the inference is the pantheon gods of ancient times. No details are available as to why they are heading this way, or even if Earth is their destination. The information states that something was detected about 14 light years distant, near Gliese 234B, that is large and heading this way very quickly. The estimated arrival in the solar system is early March.

It is a perplexing phenomenon, as redshift measurements indicate the object is moving just under the speed of light, yet it covers distance at 60 times the speed of light. It is wrenching quite a few brains as to how something can move 60x the speed of light, without ever exceeding the speed of light. It may indicate some kind of transportation method that mankind has yet to conceive of.

Psychics have reached out to that location and sense a very evolved consciousness that has a degree of familiarity to it--something mythological. But no actual contact has been made, not even through channeling. All that astral projection has revealed is a "golden sphere of great size." Multiple consciousnesses have been detected, which is why it is referred to as a pantheon of mythological gods.

Thought you folks would be interested; particularly any theories on how to travel faster than light without ever moving faster than light.

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Re: Return of the Gods

Post by LoneBear » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:18 am

daniel wrote:It is a perplexing phenomenon, as redshift measurements indicate the object is moving just under the speed of light, yet it covers distance at 60 times the speed of light. It is wrenching quite a few brains as to how something can move 60x the speed of light, without ever exceeding the speed of light. It may indicate some kind of transportation method that mankind has yet to conceive of.
I've been thinking about this (I love a good mystery) and remembered a story from a long time ago, where there were these Llamas in India that would walk hundreds of miles to their destination, and would make the journey in minutes, not days, as it should. It was said that they floated 50 feet off the ground and each step would take them 1/4 mile. 100 miles, to the Llama, would be just 400 steps away.

If an average person takes 400 steps, they would cover a distance of about 1/4 mile, total. The Llama, using the same number of steps, in the same amount of time, covers 400x the distance.

This sounds like a similar situation. If you count #steps/time, a person and a Llama are traveling at the same speed--yet the Llama moves 400 times the spatial distance.

Science fiction has a similar concept--hyperspace. Hyperspace is a "stretched" space where the absolute locations are further apart than "normal" space, so 1 meter in hyperspace maps to a kilometer in normal space. This allows a ship to cover vast distances in minutes, that would take years in normal space. In essence, faster-than-light when the ratio of normal space/time is used to measure velocity, yet sublight when hyperspace/time is the speed. The speed depends upon the spatial reference system used.

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Post by Raytrek » Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:10 pm

I had an idea I suppose I will call it the 'catapillar theory'. If you think of how a catapillar moves, the same could theoretically be done with space. I have heard of this kind of folding of space, but it can be described by the way planes fly around the world, if you want to fly from Sydney to Santiago, instead of following the parallel you would arc over New Zealand, this reduces flight time. But we look at travel on the surface, the real most dirrect route to Santiago from Sydney is through the ground.

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Re: Return of the Gods

Post by LoneBear » Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:55 pm

I found this on YouTube while trying to locate a piece of UFO footage (man, there is a lot of fake crap on YouTube). It is a Mayan Elder talking about 2012:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVTSEFWEVEY

Curiously enough, he says that 12 baktun 13 ahau is the "return of the ancestors and men of wisdom." That would be July 16, 2012. (Mayan date: 12.19.19.10.0 13 'Ahau 3 Xul)

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Re: Return of the Gods

Post by daniel » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:11 pm

Raytrek wrote:I have heard of this kind of folding of space,...
To quote Omoc of the Tollan: "No." :-)

I just did an analysis for David Wilcock on the Orion Cube; I'm sure he'll be talking about it soon, along with all the info on coordinate time. Quick summary, in order for a ship to travel FTL without time dilation, one must plot the course in both coordinate space and coordinate time, so one arrives at the right place and the right time. Space and time are reciprocally related, so once you cross the speed of light, "going faster" is actually "going slower" from a spatial perspective (more time, same space). This object is probably traveling at superluminal speeds, but only the redshift is being measured, much like Larson's description of the supra-light speeds of the Quasar.
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Re: Return of the Gods

Post by Raytrek » Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:43 am

Yes, Daniel, I have heard that because any given star system is moving through space, rather than pointing directly at it, which would result in an arcing over the distance, you work out where the star will be relative to the speed you travel and head dierectly for that point, in doing so you shave off all the extra distance you gain from arcing.

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Re: Return of the Gods

Post by daniel » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:32 am

Raytrek wrote:Yes, Daniel, I have heard that because any given star system is moving through space, rather than pointing directly at it, which would result in an arcing over the distance, you work out where the star will be relative to the speed you travel and head dierectly for that point, in doing so you shave off all the extra distance you gain from arcing.
That is just a spatial trajectory system--plotting an intercept course between two, moving bodies in 3D space and clock time.

I was referring to motion in 3-dimensional time. Imagine, if you will, a mirror universe--just like the observed universe but where length, width and depth have units of seconds, and the clock is measured in meters (like my screen size is 16 seconds by 9 seconds, and it took 2 meters to write this). This is the realm of coordinate time. Mind-blower, huh?

What we call "clock time" is the speed of movement in that universe, in seconds per meter. With clock time, the course through that landscape does not matter--only the speed at which you traverse it.

Things change when moving faster-than-light, as another dimension appears in that realm. You no longer can just measure the speed of clock time, but now also have a length--making what was a scalar into a vector. An "arrow of time," as it is called. When you have an arrow, the direction you travel in time now MATTERS.

If you were to walk 5 meters across the room in 3d space and clock time, it would take about 2 seconds. But, if you were to travel FTL across the room, the same distance could take anything from a microseconds to a century, depending on where your arrow of time was pointed in the universe of time. If it pointed backwards (slower), you would travel in less than 2 seconds, since less time is more space. If it pointed at the destination, you would arrive IN 2 seconds, if it pointed to New Zealand, you may not arrive on the other side of the room for years--as your "clock time" speed would have to cover the distance from New Zealand and back, at a walking pace, though your spatial body would only have to cover 5 meters.
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Re: Return of the Gods

Post by Amhlaibh » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:04 am

Ive just been skim reading this thread so not sure if this applies.
I just watched that mayan clip. The book im reading claims a theory about crust displacement where the earth crust turns on the molten, there are ancient map pictures in the book with antarctica with no ice, the theory is that the ice now there is making the crust wobble more, this makes me remeber some news i read a while ago saying antartica had grown heaps more ice on one side of it.
New Zealand is a realitively new land, acoording to Maori myths, there main god Maui pulled it up as a fish and killed it and its where we live today, I dont know if a crust displacement causes land to rise and fall but i can see a connection there.
There is also another one of him slowing the sun down as the days were to fast but that would mean the earth spun at a different speed or that the land changed position.

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Post by LoneBear » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:52 am

Amhlaibh wrote:Ive just been skim reading this thread so not sure if this applies.
I just watched that mayan clip. The book im reading claims a theory about crust displacement where the earth crust turns on the molten, there are ancient map pictures in the book with antarctica with no ice, the theory is that the ice now there is making the crust wobble more, this makes me remeber some news i read a while ago saying antartica had grown heaps more ice on one side of it.
I wrote a paper on this concept, years ago: At the Earth's Core: The Geophysics of Planetary Evolution

I concluded that the ice will create a bias as to how the crust shifts, but was not the cause of it--the cause was the composition of the Earth's core and that it is constantly expanding, which cracks the crust and allow it to slip occasionally.
Amhlaibh wrote:New Zealand is a realitively new land, acoording to Maori myths, there main god Maui pulled it up as a fish and killed it and its where we live today, I dont know if a crust displacement causes land to rise and fall but i can see a connection there.
"Where we live today" implies that they lived somewhere else, before. In this case, "new land" may be analogous to the "new world" found by Columbus--a discovered country after a long, hard journey. The fish may be symbolic of an ark, and where it was "killed" is where it came to rest (similar to Shinto myth). As to an ocean-going or space-going ark... I cannot say.
Amhlaibh wrote:There is also another one of him slowing the sun down as the days were to fast but that would mean the earth spun at a different speed or that the land changed position.
If the Earth is expanding, as I believe it is, the rotation would also slow down to compensate. The Maya have a similar myth, since their calendar was based on a 360-day year. After the last period of destruction, they had to add 5 "evil days" to their calendar, to bring it to 365. The sun slowed down, needing 5 more days to complete a year.

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New World Disorder

Post by daniel » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:16 pm

A lot of the claims people make concerning the New World Order don't make much sense to me, as the Illuminati aren't idiots... they have been running the planet for the last 800 years or so, and been very successful at manipulating everything to their needs. So I took a look at the data, and knowing what I know about the "gods of old," formulated a hypothesis on what the actual agenda is these days.

Anyone has studied the global situation knows that wars and conflicts are all fabricated for specific needs, and usually the needs of multinational corporations. As are most things these days... "false flags" to influence public opinion and control the masses. There is no "cold war," no "drug war"... all staged for specific goals. So I got to wondering about all the deadly weapons we have stockpiled, all over the world. There's no actual use for them, as there is no real conflict between countries. It's all an act.

First, riddle me this... since we haven't actually had a "conflict" between countries since the 13th century when the Annunaki lost the SM-LM war, pulled out, and the Illuminati took over, why are there 27,000 nuclear missiles on this planet? Considering the area they destroy, about 37 square miles, all of them, together, would only destroy 0.5% of the land area of Earth.

We also know from Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that a mere 40 years later the cities now have over a million people living in them again--and cancer rates are some of the lowest in the world, as it seems the low-level radiation destroys cancer cells. From that data, one can conclude that a damaged area from a nuclear exchange only lasts about 20 years before habitation can start again.

According to Alex Jones, D.U.M.B.s (Deep Underground Military Bases) have enough resources to last 30 years, which not only includes all the stuff people need (royalty along with their slaves to do the work), but a stockpile of army equipment, naval ships and aircraft... enough to take control of the land, sea and skies, should the facilities not be available to construct new equipment when they decide to come out of their holes.

The estimated cost of a DUMB is about 20 billion dollars (James Casbolt), which would be rather difficult to hide from the public, no matter how much you lied about it being for public schools. There is only one activity that produces that level of "black" money--the drug trade. Therefore, the large corporations behind these constructions are also the people promoting drug use, and pushing the "war on drugs" to keep the prices high. (It also makes for some nice, free experimental data on mind control, as many psychoactive drugs were developed for MK Ultra.)

There are approximately 1500 of these DUMB bases, worldwide, deep enough in the ground to be in the SIMA layer of Earth--the hard basalt, not the surface dirt that is subject to the destructive forces of the majority of Earthquakes. The stuff you see on YouTube with bases on the surface is just a staging area, or a place for those folks that THINK they are buying protection.

Each base is theorized to house 50,000 people, approximately. That's a total of 7.5 million "selected" folks to ride out whatever is going to happen.

I have still found no indication that they are aware of the geophysics of Earth, nor the planetary expansion. There is enough info out there that I'm sure it was considered, but rejected by their "experts," and they do listen to their experts.

In essence, they have everything they need to survive a nuclear war and repopulate the Earth, the way they want it. EVERYTHING on the surface is expendable.

So what about us surface dwellers...

SDI is a directed-energy weapon and was probably used to destroy the world trade centers (see Judy Wood)--and no idea how many orbital platforms they may actually have equipped with this. That "international treaty" disallowing the weaponizing of space is a crock; these people are working together. Like the drug war, it is only there to keep the "little guys" out of the big picture. We have a running joke out here in the boondocks, in that you can't go to bed until you see a satellite go by... OK, time to go to bed. They are almost non-stop in the sky. Folks in cities don't see them because of the light pollution.

All missiles are projectile weapons, that work best when directed precisely at a target--they are very inefficient for a wide area. They are "intercontinental," which means they can also reach orbit and target anything in near Earth orbit. I don't think the stockpile is here so two guys in the Bilderberg club can play war on each others countries... that kind of firepower needs to be aimed at something, and that something is tough to destroy.

In order for DUMB bases to function optimally, they need compact food, or food that grows in adverse conditions and has significantly higher yields than "natural" foods. Enter GMO foods, and experiment on the public to find out what works best, what kind of side-effects they have, and what to do to optimize it. Not like our government has every experimented on the public before!

GMO also has a secondary purpose, as the bad stuff is left in the general population and weakens the species that consumes it, whether it be cattle or sheeple. It also tends to make the host infertile. May be part of a depopulation agenda, but more likely they are doing the same thing the Russians did to the Germans when Hitler invaded--poison the wells and food stuffs, and retreat. Leave an unhealthy, poor-quality slave on the surface for someone to find--that may actually be toxic to them. Recall the Stargate Atlantis episode with the Hoffans, and their drug that killed the Wraith? And how did the Wraith respond to that? Oh... they wiped out every planet where contaminated people were found. We only have one planet here. And guess who survives? The Genii in their underground bunkers.

Another thing that has been turning up are "manimals," mutants that have some human characteristics mixed with other mammals, like what is seen in the old, Egyptian hieroglyphs. Top of this list is the "Humanzee," a cross between a human and chimpanzee that has the brains of a human and the strength of a great ape--about 5x as strong as a Cro-Magnon, along the old Neanderthal lines. Now why would anyone need to create such critters? Jesse Ventura looked at it and concluded it was for a slave army to fight the civilian population, as humanzees were easy to mind control and he did not think the Army would turn on their families, regardless of orders. Does not make a lot of sense to me; they have the technology to destroy large populations already, if they wanted to. But... suppose an army of 15-foot tall lizards showed up on the planet, like they did 6000 years ago, that were highly resistant to conventional weapons and could crush a soldier with one hand? Some super-soldiers would come in really handy then, like Anubis' kull warriors. An equal match to land-based attack.

Now what about all the surveillance that is going on? I'm sure they love listening in on people all over the globe making phone sex calls, but as a deterrent to anti-NWO, not very effective. The sample size is just too large for the data to make any sense. However, what if they were monitoring for specific changes in behavior? As you may recall in Sumerian research, the Annunaki had these things called MEs, or "Tablets of Destiny," that granted amazing power to the one that possessed it--including mind control of a slave population. And we have our own offshoot of that technology with MK Ultra and followup projects. If "visitors" arrived and initiated a situation similar to the "V" blessing (global mind control)... talk about your battle for people's minds. A bunch of pawns on the board, as it takes some spirit to resist the "Voice of God." (Which, BTW, is the name for the technology that allows a person to send a voice into another person's brain through modulated microwaves--"channeling.")

It is all pointing to a scenario where the Annunaki return to harvest their crop and their descendents--the NWO royalty--aren't too happy about that. It appears they have several lines of defense, starting with the SDI system, nuclear strikes, and armies of mind-control slaves that they will have to go through to get to them. But it gives them enough time to climb into their DUMB holes and lock the doors, while Obama fiddles and the world burns.

And I believe they have known about this since the early 1930s, when the first scouts landed on Earth to talk with FDR. Up until then, they were having quite a nice time with their Illuminati NWO. And something else happened during the 1980s that triggered SDI--and I suspect that is Montauk. Reagan was President then, and some strange stuff was going on that may have attracted the attention of the Annunaki, telling them the crop is ripe.

Time for Harvest, "To Serve Man."

WAIT... it's a cookbook!
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Re: Return of the Gods

Post by 7Serpent » Fri May 04, 2018 9:47 am

daniel wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:16 pm
A lot of the claims people make concerning the New World Order don't make much sense to me, as the Illuminati aren't idiots... they have been running the planet for the last 800 years or so, and been very successful at manipulating everything to their needs. So I took a look at the data, and knowing what I know about the "gods of old," formulated a hypothesis on what the actual agenda is these days.

Anyone has studied the global situation knows that wars and conflicts are all fabricated for specific needs, and usually the needs of multinational corporations. As are most things these days... "false flags" to influence public opinion and control the masses. There is no "cold war," no "drug war"... all staged for specific goals. So I got to wondering about all the deadly weapons we have stockpiled, all over the world. There's no actual use for them, as there is no real conflict between countries. It's all an act.


Time for Harvest, "To Serve Man."

WAIT... it's a cookbook!
I think it makes sense to look at these things that have come to light or not... hind sight.

And what catches my attention was the miles Mathis nuclear hoax revelation.... so no nukes exist, and now Kim Jung un, the boogie man with his finger on the fake red button just all of a sudden went away?? Whats going on... things are rapidly changing it would seem.

I came across a simple Mayan ratio this morning... from the past. 13:20

http://www.mayanmajix.com/art190i.html

In this dying fixed world and in this ever expanding r/s universe... light shows up.

1 Sun, so today begins a new Tracena.

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Re: New World Disorder

Post by sovert » Fri May 04, 2018 4:11 pm

daniel wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:16 pm

It is all pointing to a scenario where the Annunaki return to harvest their crop and their descendents--the NWO royalty--aren't too happy about that. It appears they have several lines of defense, starting with the SDI system, nuclear strikes, and armies of mind-control slaves that they will have to go through to get to them.
Have you seen that action flick that came out recently called Jupiter Ascending? It has almost the exact same plot; the earth was seeded with a human crop thousands of years ago, and one of the galactic merchant houses returns to harvest the crop, complete with 10 foot lizardman minions to do the dirty work.

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