Lonebear wrote:It becomes artificial when conscious, free will is used to control or alter events.
But there are no events without consciousness, unless you subscribe to the realist philosophy. An control and alteration is a natural consequence of life and adaptation, the quality of which changes based on intent.
zenmaster wrote:I think that control and destiny in this sense are ultimately the same thing. That is destiny is perceived to be a means for a state of control - the quality of which is a projection of a mere apprehension of what the individual lacks in current consciousness. However, there is a type of "just doing" with mind also, where it is seen that "destiny" doesn't exist in the future. In other words, the agency required for control does not need to get projected onto some external event sequence that mostly exists the future.
In any being the changes due to necessary
causes are called natural, whereas those produced by intentional
human activity are called artificial.
Natural can become artificial, depending on the extent of human intervention (influence).
Who's to say, if it's natural or artificial. Only one would know.
Specific information and knowing where it's coming from to make such a determination
of an individual
In some dictionaries destiny is defined as "control", and another "beyond control".
Webster's has destiny as "control".
A predetermined course of events considered as something beyond human power or control.
- to determine
There has been discussions of the conscious, unconscious. Has one considered "supernatural
"? Supernatural overrules hynosis, trance, etc.
Supernatural - destination to final objects, beyond the reach of all created nature.